View Points: A Life At The Improv
Does too much reliance on data affect the ability to deliver a musical mix?


"The tempo, the meter, the key, the mode, the context, the groove – all are things that the jazz player measures."

Good job, Jack. I enjoyed your nostalgic trip down memory lane. I, too, discovered music through listening. I didn’t have the benefit of listening to early U.S. broadcasting, but instead listened to old records on a wind-up record player in the shade of a cashew grove. (But that’s another story.)

I’m not going to go down my own memory lane in answer to your rant because I’m fairly sure that no one cares. However, I have a problem with your analogy. It’s a bit overstated, as I’m sure you know many of the jazz greats do (did), in fact, read music.

I’m sure many, if not most, also discovered music at an early age through listening. Some of the most amazing musicians I have seen were studio guys who could sight-read a chart cold and nail it in a few takes, with feeling, thank you very much.

Talk to any classical conductor and you’ll find that they can read the score and actually hear the music. It’s a good thing we have a scoring/symbolic system. Imagine how much music would have been lost before the advent of recording if we didn’t have some way of writing it down. I wonder if you would make the same argument for verbal history versus written accounts?

MISSING THE POINT?

But this is not about who the better musician is or whether one can create art when “constrained” by some regimented symbolic system. Once again, I think you miss the point. It seems that the underlying thesis of our ongoing “discussions” is the role of measurement in live sound. I don’t recall ever suggesting that “measurement,” as you call it, has any place in the mix. Where did you get the idea that anyone is suggesting that a machine or measurement can fix the problem of “spittle”?


"In my experience, TEF has done as much for my listening ability as has listening to music."

Machines don’t ­ nor can they ever ­ mix. Your predictions notwithstanding, we are a long way from the sort of artificial intelligence required to mix a live show. In your own prediction of the future there is some machine that remembers a mix done by a human. It does not do the mix; it simply replicates it. We do this in the studio all the time because we are going over the same mix, fine-tweaking it to get it right.

I wonder if musicians will ever be good enough to play a performance consistently enough to automate a live mix?

If they are that “good”, would we want to listen to them? Would there be any emotion left in the performance?

I’ve said it before a number of times on these pages and elsewhere: measurement yields data. When you measure something, you get a piece of information. You don’t get a mix, you don’t get art, you don’t get emotion. If you know how to use these bits of information, that’s great. You might even measure something that will show you the actual result of “spittle”, and, with proper analysis (much more difficult than measurement), might come up with a solution. If you don’t know how to use the information, don’t measure.

DEVELOP THE LINKS

In my opinion, it’s a bit silly to close your eyes to information that might help. But if you can get the job done without it, more power to you. In my experience, TEF (my analysis method of choice) has done as much for my listening ability as has listening to music. When one makes thousands of measurements of loudspeakers and rooms, combined with listening to these devices and facilities, one begins to develop links between the objective and subjective. These links are difficult and often non-intuitive, but it doesn’t mean that they should be ignored.


"Reading a score is looking at a set of instructions that, if followed, will produce the desired music."

Doing a measurement is fundamentally different from reading a score. Measuring a system is gathering data that might inform some decision you might make. It’s really learning something new about the system. In fact, measuring the system is actually analogous to listening to it. Reading a score is looking at a set of instructions that, if followed, will produce the desired music.

Measurement is never a set of instructions. It is simply data. When the data are analyzed, there might be a number of things that can be done to effect change.

It is up to the human to make these choices. They come from within, from the experience and background and ­ dare I say ­ creativity of the analyst. Sounds a lot like a jazz musician taking in data during a jam.

The tempo, the meter, the key, the mode, the context, the groove ­ all are things that the jazz player measures and takes in, and then makes decisions based on these data (analysis), and then acts on the decision by playing a riff. If you want to make comparisons, I agree that the live “mixer” (lets drop the “e” word) is a lot like the jazz musician. They both have to quickly react to what is going on.

And, in a purely live context, what is created is ephemeral. It is gone as soon as it is created. The mix is never heard again nor is that exact riff that made chills run up your spine. The classical musician reading the score is not like the maligned measuring maven, but rather like a recording mixer who, having captured a performance, is now playing an automated mix.

NOBLE CALLINGS

Jack might argue that there is no creativity in the studio (and he would be wrong), but maybe that is why he seem to have no respect for the classical musician. They are not measurement types, rather, they are playback units, not really creating but instead re-creating. That is a noble calling not to be dissed.

If there is a true difference of perspective, maybe it is between live mixing and studio recording. But this has nothing to do with measurement. People who “have seen the light” and use measurement indeed move to a higher plane. They are using more of their brains, gathering more data about their world and responding in a creative manner.


"People who have 'seen the light' and use measurement indeed move to a higher plane." (In this case, Curtis Flatt of Spectrum Sound, Nashville.)

Of course there are some, I’m afraid, who simply measure and never listen. These types have never worked on making the links between subjective and objective that are necessary if there is to be a creative result. Maybe they’re the ones Jack is going after.

I suspect that there is an even greater number of front-of-house mixers who ignore the “measurement tool” that displays the fact (not opinion) that the strip has run out of headroom (read: clip-indicator). Does the mix really sound better at 50 percent harmonic distortion? Oh, sorry, that’s too tech...

Is the art served when the gain structure is so badly botched that the system runs out of, er, “stuff”? Or maybe even worse, power amplifiers in clip producing 125 dB at the FOH position, trashing the hearing of most of the patrons in the venue?

Measurement is not the enemy. Stupidity is.

 

Doug Jones is the Chair of the Sound Department at Columbia College in Chicago. Reach him at djones@livesoundint.com

May 2003 Live Sound International

 

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